Episode 11: Chuck DeGroat
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ABOUT THE EPISODE
After studying at Oxford University, Chuck DeGroat experienced a personal breakdown that led to major changes not only in his career path but also his faith. In episode 11, Chuck recalls his journey from being a man with all the answers to a man who experiences God in the questions. Sarah and Chuck discuss the dangers of chasing prestige and of looking at faith through a dogmatic lens. They talk about parenting, writing, reading, and his most recent book, When Narcissism Comes to Church.
MEET THE GUEST
Chuck DeGroat is a follower of Jesus, a husband to Sara for 26 years, and a father to two amazing daughters. He is a professor of Counseling and Christian Spirituality at Western Theological Seminary in Holland, MI. He’s written five books, including Wholeheartedness and, most recently, When Narcissism Comes to Church. Chuck is a licensed therapist and a spiritual director. He leads retreats and speak—and he is immensely grateful for it all. During his years pastoring, Chuck started two church-based counseling centers and is committed to honoring people's stories and to providing good, trauma-informed care. To connect with Chuck, you can find him on Instagram and Twitter. To find out more about his work and his books, go to ChuckDeGroat.net.
EPISODE NOTES
David Wilcox - song: “Start with the Ending”
Anne Lamott’s Bird by Bird
K.J. Ramsey (author)
Leaving Egypt: Finding God in the Wilderness Places (another book by Chuck)
What Chuck is reading:
Jesus and John Wayne: How White Evangelicals Corrupted a Faith and Fractured a Nation by Kristin Kobes Du Mez
Julian of Norwich: Showings
Jung’s Map of the Soul by Murray Stein
The Road by Cormac McCarthy
Parks & Rec (currently on Netflix)
